You now get the rare opportunity to have a little bit of influence on 'if rules should be enforced or not'. Don't panic, i'm not talking about a dictatorship or anything.
Recently some people have complained about (necro)bumping and it's out of question that it is annoying most of the time.
I'm now asking you, should we be more strict with bumps?
====================================== Since we have no fixed rules about anything, just have a little reminder about the guidelines regarding bumps:
- not more than one bump within 12 hours (by the same person, including alts) - no pointless bumps (you can bump to revive a conversation, a game or an AMA but not just to bump it) - no needless bumping of ridiculous long activity posts ======================================
Additional comments are welcome.
EDIT: Made this an announcement, so you can't say you didn't know about it, also updated the title.
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Important: NEW RULE - Rules of bumping threads 33 votes
Currently it's fair game to necrobump via best of by giving agrees to various posts. This needs to be fixed.
if you will argue about zicit and i not wanting coraabia activity berng irrelevant because only we care, then i can also say your argument dosnt matter because only you and dlk care
Currently it's fair game to necrobump via best of by giving agrees to various posts. This needs to be fixed.
if you will argue about zicit and i not wanting coraabia activity berng irrelevant because only we care, then i can also say your argument dosnt matter because only you and dlk care
Chisako's also taken notice. Hell, they've said that it's one of the main reasons they made this thread, mind you.
And clearly all the Yes voters also care.
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The poll is about bumping threads, not adding reactions.
Reactions can necrobump posts.
Best Of will add a post, regardless of age, to the top, if it has 1 promote or 5 total awesomes/agrees.
Regardless of how often it is used, it'll still necrobump the thread, and a necrobump is a necrobump.
Is a toaster oven not a toaster, just because it has that door? No. It's still a goddamn toaster.
Is a necrobump via points not a necrobump, just because it bumps to Best Of, and not Discussions? No. It's still a goddamn necrobump.
Clearly we disagree about the definition of a bump. On most forums, there isn't even a "Best Of" section, and a bump is adding a post to a thread. I think it would be unfair to say that when you're looking through an old thread, either because you're new or just to revisit it, that you can't Agree or Awesome a comment you like unless the thread is still actively being added to. Yesterday, I saw BurntCookie's top 20 thread for the first time, and I saw some cool or funny stuff I hadn't seen before. I added reactions, because I liked them.
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The poll is about bumping threads, not adding reactions.
Reactions can necrobump posts.
Best Of will add a post, regardless of age, to the top, if it has 1 promote or 5 total awesomes/agrees.
Regardless of how often it is used, it'll still necrobump the thread, and a necrobump is a necrobump.
Is a toaster oven not a toaster, just because it has that door? No. It's still a goddamn toaster.
Is a necrobump via points not a necrobump, just because it bumps to Best Of, and not Discussions? No. It's still a goddamn necrobump.
bumping on Best Of =/= bumping on the discussions list
No one besides you checks Best Of nowadays, so it really doesn't matter if Leon gives reactions to old posts.
The only thing would be if those reactions were false or not... But seeing how people are, it just doesn't even matter... ... Not like aything really matters that much in this forum...
... I guess this "Best Of" thing is where all those ghost points came from?...
For extra effect, you might want to get a bit more strict on locking old threads. As in if a thread is old and there is nothing to add to it, just lock it. I don't mean lock threads that are a month old, mainly threads that are around a year old that people can't really add to anymore (ex. Joke polls. ex. of a thread that shouldn't be locked: a gender poll that hasn't gotten a post in a while but is still useful). Plus, any pointless bump should be locked.
For extra effect, you might want to get a bit more strict on locking old threads. As in if a thread is old and there is nothing to add to it, just lock it. I don't mean lock threads that are a month old, mainly threads that are around a year old that people can't really add to anymore (ex. Joke polls. ex. of a thread that shouldn't be locked: a gender poll that hasn't gotten a post in a while but is still useful). Plus, any pointless bump should be locked.
One possible solution could be automatically locking threads that are older than page 100 of All Discussions.
So, if it's okay for Leon to necrobump via Best Of because "nobody uses best of", I guess I can necrobump in the Nested category because nobody plays Nested.
Forget that it's a necrobump, and that's against the rules, nobody uses it, so it's okay to break rules there! ...right?
東脳Camwoodstock - Nanshu's Head (Member of the Decillion Club) 中天
So, if it's okay for Leon to necrobump via Best Of because "nobody uses best of", I guess I can necrobump in the Nested category because nobody plays Nested.
Forget that it's a necrobump, and that's against the rules, nobody uses it, so it's okay to break rules there! ...right?
no if i get an old post on best of, nobody sees it if i bump a nested post, everybody sees it
So, if it's okay for Leon to necrobump via Best Of because "nobody uses best of", I guess I can necrobump in the Nested category because nobody plays Nested.
Forget that it's a necrobump, and that's against the rules, nobody uses it, so it's okay to break rules there! ...right?
Discussions is used to see what threads are being added to so you can read them and add on to them yourself. Best Of is a place to see good posts. They serve a different purpose, and there's not muchany harm in bumping Best Of. Bumping in Discussions causes people to think there's an active thread, only to realize that it was just a necrobump.
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No one ever plays Nested nowadays, so it really doesn't matter if you necrobump old posts on that subforum.
They would still show up in Recent Discussions.
"Best Of" and "Recent Discussions" are on the same menu. You can both access them from the header. They're literally only separated by 2 buttons; Activity and Inbox.
But hey, since nobody uses one of those buttons, it's free to necrobump using that, right? And since nobody uses Nested, it's free to necrobump with that, right?
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For extra effect, you might want to get a bit more strict on locking old threads. As in if a thread is old and there is nothing to add to it, just lock it. I don't mean lock threads that are a month old, mainly threads that are around a year old that people can't really add to anymore (ex. Joke polls. ex. of a thread that shouldn't be locked: a gender poll that hasn't gotten a post in a while but is still useful). Plus, any pointless bump should be locked.
Lets also allow people to post Anonymously, and allow posters to embed files in their posts.
This does NOT mean, that messing with that underused feature is okay though!
i would be annoyed too if people would do that on purpose IF i would care about that vanilla feature for myself but since best of can also be bumped by let's say, removing false flags it is sometimes unavoidable and thus a different topic atm.
this thread here is about "real" bumps, as in commenting with "bump" or something like that, which adds nothing to the topic. (and it does not matter if necro or not)
besides that i'm kinda sad to see that something like that even is a topic to argue about. i asked you guys something specific which WILL have impact on the future. but instead you argue about who did what wrong.
no, it does not matter who started it, not even a bit. so, i politely ask you to get back to the topic, exchange opinions, share ideas on how we should do it or whatever.
i would be annoyed too if people would do that on purpose IF i would care about that vanilla feature for myself but since best of can also be bumped by let's say, removing false flags it is sometimes unavoidable and thus a different topic atm.
So giving legitimate reactions to old posts is ok?
This does NOT mean, that messing with that underused feature is okay though!
i would be annoyed too if people would do that on purpose IF i would care about that vanilla feature for myself but since best of can also be bumped by let's say, removing false flags it is sometimes unavoidable and thus a different topic atm.
this thread here is about "real" bumps, as in commenting with "bump" or something like that, which adds nothing to the topic. (and it does not matter if necro or not)
besides that i'm kinda sad to see that something like that even is a topic to argue about. i asked you guys something specific which WILL have impact on the future. but instead you argue about who did what wrong.
no, it does not matter who started it, not even a bit. so, i politely ask you to get back to the topic, exchange opinions, share ideas on how we should do it or whatever.
thank you
But we're not messing with it, BO exists to point out good points, which Leon was doing.
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And clearly all the Yes voters also care.
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Best Of will add a post, regardless of age, to the top, if it has 1 promote or 5 total awesomes/agrees.
Regardless of how often it is used, it'll still necrobump the thread, and a necrobump is a necrobump.
Is a toaster oven not a toaster, just because it has that door? No. It's still a goddamn toaster.
Is a necrobump via points not a necrobump, just because it bumps to Best Of, and not Discussions? No. It's still a goddamn necrobump.
"HOLY TITS IT'S ARMS ARE MOVING" ~Me | "Why are you farming disagrees?" ~DMF | "My art is math." ~C_N
"you dashnet fags are the pac-man" ~CG | "you dont choose to be gay, you just have to be lucky." ~TFU
"Why the fuck I voted this?!" ~Idler | "The real question is, 'How many dragons do you want to screw?'." ~Annie
"You'd be like a Kardashian (or whoever's relevant nowadays)" ~Adumb | "piece of shit poll" ~EC
nobody excpect you checks best of
everyone checks discussion
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not... But seeing how people are, it just doesn't even matter...
... Not like aything really matters that much in this forum...
... I guess this "Best Of" thing is where all those ghost points
came from?...
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Forget that it's a necrobump, and that's against the rules, nobody uses it, so it's okay to break rules there! ...right?
"HOLY TITS IT'S ARMS ARE MOVING" ~Me | "Why are you farming disagrees?" ~DMF | "My art is math." ~C_N
"you dashnet fags are the pac-man" ~CG | "you dont choose to be gay, you just have to be lucky." ~TFU
"Why the fuck I voted this?!" ~Idler | "The real question is, 'How many dragons do you want to screw?'." ~Annie
"You'd be like a Kardashian (or whoever's relevant nowadays)" ~Adumb | "piece of shit poll" ~EC
if i get an old post on best of, nobody sees it
if i bump a nested post, everybody sees it
also it doesnt brak rules
*facepalm*
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"in my 10(-3) months living in dashnet i have never been sigged for more than like 30 minutes" ~lennonluiz0907
"please get sigged, please, please!" ~MCVIII | "Wow, Sparky's sig is just about others talking about sigs." ~DS1.8K
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"I feel like I'm the only guy here with a full sig of quotes that don't have meta-humor involved." ~CWS
muchany harm in bumping Best Of. Bumping in Discussions causes people to think there's an active thread, only to realize that it was just a necrobump.08619-69569
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"HOLY TITS IT'S ARMS ARE MOVING" ~Me | "Why are you farming disagrees?" ~DMF | "My art is math." ~C_N
"you dashnet fags are the pac-man" ~CG | "you dont choose to be gay, you just have to be lucky." ~TFU
"Why the fuck I voted this?!" ~Idler | "The real question is, 'How many dragons do you want to screw?'." ~Annie
"You'd be like a Kardashian (or whoever's relevant nowadays)" ~Adumb | "piece of shit poll" ~EC
But hey, since nobody uses one of those buttons, it's free to necrobump using that, right? And since nobody uses Nested, it's free to necrobump with that, right?
"HOLY TITS IT'S ARMS ARE MOVING" ~Me | "Why are you farming disagrees?" ~DMF | "My art is math." ~C_N
"you dashnet fags are the pac-man" ~CG | "you dont choose to be gay, you just have to be lucky." ~TFU
"Why the fuck I voted this?!" ~Idler | "The real question is, 'How many dragons do you want to screw?'." ~Annie
"You'd be like a Kardashian (or whoever's relevant nowadays)" ~Adumb | "piece of shit poll" ~EC
2: The OP doesn't mention Best Of. Lets also allow people to post Anonymously, and allow posters to embed files in their posts.
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bumping a thread =/= messing with "best of..."
This does NOT mean, that messing with that underused feature is okay though!
i would be annoyed too if people would do that on purpose IF i would care about that vanilla feature for myself but since best of can also be bumped by let's say, removing false flags it is sometimes unavoidable and thus a different topic atm.
this thread here is about "real" bumps, as in commenting with "bump" or something like that, which adds nothing to the topic. (and it does not matter if necro or not)
besides that i'm kinda sad to see that something like that even is a topic to argue about. i asked you guys something specific which WILL have impact on the future.
but instead you argue about who did what wrong.
no, it does not matter who started it, not even a bit.
so, i politely ask you to get back to the topic, exchange opinions, share ideas on how we should do it or whatever.
thank you
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