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My Late-game Setup

tobias_leadtobias_lead Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
I want to know how I could improve it.
  • Radiant Appetite and Breath of Milk
  • Garden full of Glovemorels
  • Godzamok, Mokalsium, Muridal
  • Business Day
  • Elder Pledge
This contains a lot of save-scumming.

Keep using Force the Hand of Fate until the next golden cookie is Click Frenzy (it's ~25% chance instead of the usual ~4%). Then set up a Frenzy with a Building Special. When that happens, use your Click Frenzy and let Godzamok do the rest.
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  • TumaluTumalu Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited May 19
    I ran the numbers once and glovemorel cps penalty actually makes it nearly identical to thumbcorn, except with massive rng growth pains that makes it annoying and sometimes worse. Hopefully it gets buffed someday, tho', since it's clearly intended to be the click frenzy plant.

    If you're really late game, whiskerblooms might be better, and they stay mature for a good while in clay. The difference isn't too large, though, and thumbcorn has high convenience value.

    In any case, once you build up a good bank off click frenzies (which you're doing great!), you want to move up to using Building Special off Hand of Fate (for frenzy+bs+bs) and harvest the "gain x cookies" plants. Bakeberries, queenbeets, and duketaters all have their place with this strat.

    Freeze the garden before harvesting queenbeets (avoid cps penalty), and use clay for bakeberries with the ctrl+shift+seedclick harvesting shortcut to maximize cps bonus and you'll get 42 minutes of cookies instead of 30. Duketaters can sometimes work when planted before sleeping or leaving your house for the day, but you need a -lot- of bank for it to be worth it, and duketaters only work if you have Seedless to Nay achievement doubling their mature time. (otherwise you can't even get half of them mature at once)

    If you're still limited by your bank amount, you should harvest queenbeets/duketaters one by one and you can get up to 8x your bank total, from what I hear? Once you have enough bank, just use the harvest shortcut instead. (that maxes at triple bank value for QBs)

    The cookies you'll gain makes click frenzies look like chump change, although they're very important for getting enough bank to use this method. Once you have even more cookies, upgrade to Frenzy+Elder Frenzy+building special hand of fate. That's where it gets silly. The second you click an Elder Frenzy cookie use ctrl+s to save, because you have little time to click all your buttons! I'd also reload until you get one of the strongest building specials off hand of fate, because this setup is a bit taxing to perform and it's a difference of ~50% the amount of cookies.

    Elder Frenzies can take a little while to find, but you'll get ~10x the amount of cookies by using one, with sufficient bank. Easily worth the effort. Transitioning from frenzy to wrath cookies can be slightly tricky though, you should cancel your elder pledge the moment a GC spawns then wait until it's almost about to disappear so the grandmapocalypse starts engaging enough. Once you get the frenzy, export your save, and use ctrl+O to reload off incorrect wrath cookie results.


    edit:wow who thought cookie clicker would get so involved. i luv it

    edit:Other things I forgot; ideal temple god setup is Mokalsium followed by some mix of jeremy and cycilus, depending on time of day. You're reloading hard enough that GC spawn time doesn't matter if you have all upgrades. You also absolutely want to toggle the Golden Switch after you click your last golden/wrath cookie. Hand of Fate still functions fine when the golden switch is on. Also, the Golden Cookie sound switch changes your hand of fate result, so you can check results for both on/off and find building frenzy results faster.
  • dparejadpareja Member Posts: 453 ✭✭✭
    The actual ideal end-game setup is Cheapcaps/Earth Shatterer.
  • TumaluTumalu Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    well, YOU'RE NOT WRONG... but you may as well just cheat in infinite cookies at that point :V

    I'm pretty surprised orteil didn't patch that out already, he commented on a reddit post about it weeks ago
  • tobias_leadtobias_lead Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    In any case, once you build up a good bank off click frenzies (which you're doing great!), you want to move up to using Building Special off Hand of Fate (for frenzy+bs+bs) and harvest the "gain x cookies" plants. Bakeberries, queenbeets, and duketaters all have their place with this strat.

    Yah, I haven't unlocked Queenbeets and Duketaters yet :P
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  • TumaluTumalu Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    Bakeberries work fine! Unless you want to unlock the garden without any advice, queenbeets are simple to unlock from there, too.
  • dparejadpareja Member Posts: 453 ✭✭✭
    edited May 20
    Tumalu said:

    well, YOU'RE NOT WRONG... but you may as well just cheat in infinite cookies at that point :V

    I'm pretty surprised orteil didn't patch that out already, he commented on a reddit post about it weeks ago

    It's also the ideal mid-game setup.

    And the ideal early-game setup.

    Really it's just the ideal setup.

    EDIT: I did use this exploit, I admit, but I prefer Queenbeets for Juicy queenbeets, because building up sugar lumps still takes a lot of time, whereas once you've done the Cheapcap scam you're basically set on cookies thanks to all the prestige you gain.
  • tobias_leadtobias_lead Member Posts: 22 ✭✭
    My setup carried me all the way through early and mid-game. Hit duodecillions in just under a month. Then upgrades ran out.

    There's two things Cookie Clicker needs. a teeny bit slower early-mid-game, and something to keep late-game interesting. Both would be solved by putting more involved minigames (garden, dungeon, space shooter (it's bound to happen)) behind higher sugar levels.
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  • TumaluTumalu Member Posts: 84 ✭✭
    edited May 21
    Yeah, Orteil's said he hopes to put in a lot more minigames in the future. Farm is already keeping late game more interesting with the ENORMOUS payouts on stacked frenzy plant harvests, but it can only get better from here.

    It looks like heavenly chip production slows down faster than I thought, so even this incredible method loses steam after awhile. I can probably hit sexdecillions within a reasonable timeframe, though. You can 5x+ your prestige within days of a reset until you're baking quindecillions per run.
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